Attendees: (20) Chris Franklin, Charles Barnett, John Sullivan, Doug Probst, Chuck Meckfessel, Molly Meckfessel, Emma Meckfessel, John Buckley, Jason Garbus, Chris Lageman, Don Hanson, Larry Hileman, Dan Cella, John O’Neill, Dennis Tuchalski, John Hilker, Skip Eberhart, Jonah Klein, Howard Klein, Michael Thomas
Sunset Hills Bandana’s BBQ; 11750 Gravois Rd, Saint Louis, MO 63127
Called to order at 7:05 p.m.
New Attendees: Howard Klein and Jonah Klein – Welcome!
Achievements and Contributions:
- Chuck Meckfessel, John Hilker and John O’Neill made successful Level 2 flights, and Rob Benton made a successful Level 3 flight at AIRFest 31 in Argonia, Kansas. Congratulations!
24 June 2025 SLRA Meeting Minutes approved
Treasury Status
- Current Balance $1,839.40
- Deposits: $292.68 from PayPal for membership dues
- Expenses: $75.00
SLRA Memberships Total = 2025 current total = 51. (49 Senior/2 Junior Members)
Launch Reports:
- See website for September 3, 2025 post for full details. Several SLRA members attended AIRFest 31 in Argonia, Kansas. The event was sponsored by Kloudbusters. Over 250 registered flyers and 20 vendors were present. Many SLRA members also volunteered for range duties, setting up, and tearing down as needed. SLRA attendees: Rob Benton, Oliver and Jason Garbus, Brian Hamilton, Don Hanson, Hohn Hilker, Chris Lagemann, Chuck, Molly, and Emma Meckfessel, John O’Neill, and Doug Probst.
- Buder Park – September 21, 2025 – John Buckley and Keith Vinyard conducted a launch of some contest models. John noted that there was also a TARC team present at the field.
Upcoming Launches
- Elsberry HP Launch – Next Fall. (Note: subsequent to the July meeting, excessive rainfall caused flooding in the Elsberry area. The club has donated some financial help to the flood area.)
- Buder Park Launch – September 27 (not a fully-sanctioned club launch, but individual flyers will attend).
- Buder Park – October 25, 2025 – Spooktacular Night Launch – Note that this will be an official SLRA club event.
- Don Hanson noted that the Thunderstruck group (Pence, Indiana) will be hosting the next LDRS.
- Mo-Kan (South Greenfield, MO) http://tripolimokan.org They generally launch the third Saturday of every month during the flying season. Time: 12:00 CST-17:00 CST
Dates: October 18
Old Business
- Joel recommends going to Club Express (CE) as the location for SLRA website.
The website would contain information regarding club activities and serve as a site for maintaining records of club activities (i.e. Meetings, launch events, membership. Photos and videos would be posted and maintained on the SLRA Facebook Page. Joel will be contacting a Club Express Representative to obtain information on pricing and the process for transitioning the SLRA website to Club Express. Note: Joel was not able to be present at this meeting.
- GSLMA Status. Doug Probst will be taking the reins on maintaining communication with Buder Park North Greater St. Louis Modeling Association members. Nothing new on this item at this time.
- SLRA Support for Wash U/SLU Rocketry Teams. No Interest expressed (possibly Jason Garbus?, or someone from CIA (Central Illinois Aerospace)? Note: Mike Walsh is not currently mentoring the teams.
- SLRA Trailers
- * LP trailer presently at Don Hanson’s
- * HP trailer presently at Mike Walsh’s for maintenance work – a recent work day was held
- * Possibly put lights in the trailer
- * Roof damage on HP Trailer from hail storm
- * Once maintenance is complete, Mike will be taking it to the Storage rental location.
- Possible additional launch site – World Wide Technology Raceway. At this point, Doug is still wanting to have an in-person conversation with the site owner before scheduling a launch. Also, their weekend calendar is essentially full currently.
- Box for the Buder Park launch fees? (Note: $6 per day flying fees instituted recently.) Thanks to Doug Probst for posting photos of the box on the SLRA website. At least the ‘button pusher’ needs to be a NAR member and have Buder permit fees paid. Club maintains attitude of making every attempt to comply with the Buder fees and NAR membership requirements.
- Doug Probst mentioned the possibility of another launch site in Illinois – the YMCA located in Maryville. They would be OK with using their soccer field for this purpose. However, note that the use of an adjacent hay field will not be permitted by its owner.
- Contact St. Louis County for reimbursement of permit fee for cancelled June launch? (sometime in the future)
- Chris Franklin contacted St. Louis County, and NAR and Tripoli membership
will be have been added as valid organizations, in addition to the AMA (Academy of Model Aeronautics) as eligible for use of Buder Park.
- There was considerable discussion about the situation with access to Buder Park and the insurance issue which recently occurred. Briefly: on June 9, we were notified by St. Louis County Parks that additional language was required in our Certificate of Insurance. The NAR insurance representative was unable to agree to the additional language. Chris Franklin is going to contact someone at St. Louis County Parks over the next couple weeks to see if it can be determined that the required language is somewhat redundant and can be put aside, or possibly have a separate contract between SLRA and St. Louis County which includes the problematic language?
- Doug Probst mentioned the Buder Park insurance issue at the last GSLMA Zoom meeting. No one else had heard anything about this issue. This is still the case as of this meeting.
- Let Mike Walsh know if you are interested in pursuing a level 3 certification. There is some new paperwork involved with the process. Best to start early!
- Doug Probst mentioned the possibility of another launch site in Illinois – the First Baptist Church in Maryville, Illinois. They have a large field adjacent to the church. An effort will be made to contact them for use of the site for future rocket launches. John Buckley will contact Chuck Neff at the NAR for advice/information on making first contact with property owners.
- It appears at this time that single users (airplane or rocket flyers) can have continued access to Buder Park, with their own AMA or NAR insurance and payment of park use fees ($6 per day). Further contact with St. Louis County Parks will be made in the near future regarding group/club use of Buder Park. There still may need to be a separate contract/agreement between St. Louis County Parks and St. Louis Rocketry to the effect that we would not have any adverse impact with regard to St. Louis County’s sovereign immunity.
- Doug Probst mentioned another possible launch location – Collinsville Middle School. They would probably want some type of STEM program input from the club for use of their space.
- John Buckley noted that all NAR members should log onto the new NAR website and check their profile to be sure they are associated with the St. Louis Rocketry Association (Section #551). This needs to be done manually by each user.
- Dan Welling is wanting to transition out of the position of Liaison with the Elsberry landowner. Jason Garbus is bringing up the possibility of having 2-day launches at Elsberry in the future. This way, if Saturday of a launch weekend is rained out, the possibility of launching on Sunday would be available.
- A $250 donation from the club to Elsberry for flood assistance was made. If anyone would like to make their own donation, please make checks payable to Elsberry Ministerial Alliance and mail to: 109 N. Fourth St., Elsberry, MO 63343.
- Club trailer currently in Mike Walsh’s name. The trailer will be going to Dave Pape’s location. When trailer(s) moved, storage fees for them can be cancelled.
- It was noted that there is nobody regularly monitoring the admin@stlouisrocketry.com email inbox. The secretary will check the contents of this mailbox periodically.
- Nina Fischer noted that they (Wash. U) haven’t found a mentor as yet. She noted that the mentor would only need to be present for the Saturday/Sunday launch days in Alabama.
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New Business
- Regarding the situation at Buder Park, John Buckley noted that John Hochheimer, President of the NAR, will be contacting St. Louis County Parks in the near future regarding their insurance requirements. (Note: subsequent to the meeting, a Letter of Agreement was received, signed by John Hochheimer, NAR President, which permitted the October 25, 2025 Spooktacular launch to proceed as an official club event.)
- Jason Garbus is attending bi-weekly conference calls as TRA prefect. LDRS next year will be run by Indiana group. They have expressed interest in borrowing the SLRA megapad and some other club equipment. Chris Franklin noted that the SLRA members needed some voice in this issue. To be discussed further.
- Regarding Elsberry 2025 Fall/winter launches – NOTAMS have been posted for candidate launch weekends. Jason isn’t officially announcing dates just yet, but are covering some weekends in December, January, and February.
- Jason Garbus will be working on addressing necessary paperwork in next week or so. He had also brought up that the landowner permission form had not been updated in the last 4 years.
- Jason will have more to discuss at the October meeting.
- It was also noted that we will have to hold to a ‘no membership card-no flight’ rule at our NAR/TRA launches. However, a digitally downloaded membership card will be sufficient to allow a person to fly.
- Doug Probst noted that there are still no other GSLMA organizations which were presented with the insurance issues for the use of Buder Park that SLRA has had to deal with in recent months.
- The High Power trailer is now at Dave Pape’s. Therefore, there is no longer a need for trailer storage fees.
- John Buckley – noted that NAR competition rules are being modified over time to be in line with FAI contest rules. Among other things, piston launchers are not in line with these rules, as is the requirement that all ejection plugs must remain attached to the model (no detachable/ejectable wadding for these models). The NAR hosts a monthly Zoom meeting for those interested in keeping up with contest rule making.
- Molly Meckfessel brought up the idea of holding a rocket launch for girl scouts, if any club members were interested in volunteering. Specific dates, when known, should be emailed to all club members.
- Proposed Buder Park launch dates have been posted on the website, and are also listed here as well:
March 28, 2026
April 11, 2026
April 25, 2026
May 9, 2026
May 23, 2026
June 13, 2026
June 27, 2026
July 11, 2026
July 25, 2025
August 8, 2026
August 22, 2026
September 12, 2026
September 26, 2026
October 10, 2026
October 24, 2026
Adjourned 7:46 p.m.